tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post2754320632382118661..comments2024-03-25T20:45:09.957+05:30Comments on On The Ganga Mail: Dard-e-Dil: Rafi versus KishoreBishwanath Ghoshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09499834715638337891noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-28400998079561316972014-11-12T22:36:34.641+05:302014-11-12T22:36:34.641+05:30When a term called "range" was used in w...When a term called "range" was used in what context - Is it the range of notes / frequency or range of emotions or range of variety. If the term is to be used as range of notes - Rafi is towering above all his contemporary singers including ladies. Rafi was technically a better singer and had more to offer than Kishore. Kishore excelled in songs that were tailor made to suit his voice. Rafi had more fluidity. This of Baiju Bawara songs with Kishore's voice or the songs in husky voice rendered for Dev Anand with SD Burman. So it is not belittling- it is just conditioning our own mind to respond to a particular voice.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04345913950318250110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-50102857734834274022013-08-25T23:05:27.674+05:302013-08-25T23:05:27.674+05:30You have the capability to create quite a stir amo...You have the capability to create quite a stir amonst your readers, I seem to be the only one agreeing to most of what you say. :)<br />By the way, I love rishi kapoor in darde dil :)<br />and dilbar mere ?? KK and Amitabh at their romantic best, how I wished I was hema malini...Anubhutihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03967078639724548476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-23690232356283657772011-11-09T21:21:27.738+05:302011-11-09T21:21:27.738+05:30I read really much worthwhile data in this post!I read really much worthwhile data in this post!www.ventaxcatalogo.comhttp://www.ventaxcatalogo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-3681403178584931672011-09-26T05:35:57.189+05:302011-09-26T05:35:57.189+05:30After many years of witnessing and participating i...After many years of witnessing and participating in Rafi-KK debates, it has come down to this for me - if a listener responds more to a resonant voice even if it will occasionally diverge from the true sur and even if it lacks range (hear KK struggle to find the low notes in Raat Kali and Yeh Shaam Mastani) and if they are looking for overt acoustic calisthenics, then they tend to prefer KK. If you are into reflective listening - responding to the nuances of expression, capturing the bhaav of a song, and into perfection of sur, then Rafi and Lata rule your heart.<br /><br />There is really no point in trying to create pseudo-objective comparisons. When it comes to range, both have sung songs with a wide range of expressive demands. For examples of KK, see the essay above. As for Rafi, consider the following:<br /><br />Baar baar dekho<br />Sukh ke sab saathi<br />Is rang badalti duniya mein<br />Jaan Pehchaan Ho<br />Dil ka bhawar kare pukar<br />Babul ki dua-yen leti ja<br />Parda hai Parda<br />Gunguna rahen hain bhanwar<br />Yeh mera prem patra padhkar<br />Yeh duniya usiki <br />Brindaban ka kishan kanhaiya<br /><br />PremMehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12254506710197408005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-20699152070226523312011-08-01T17:54:43.192+05:302011-08-01T17:54:43.192+05:30RD burman used kishore kumar intensely for many re...RD burman used kishore kumar intensely for many reasons. There is absolutely no comparison between Rafi Sahab and Kishore kumar. Kishore Kumar are mentioned is for the masses but Rafi Sahab voice is for the soul. These discussions are subjective but anyway their contribution is immense so our lives have enrichedvimmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357642277728138530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-24398895783894864022009-12-30T01:00:57.901+05:302009-12-30T01:00:57.901+05:30"There is no comparison, actually. Kishore Ku..."There is no comparison, actually. Kishore Kumar, even though he himself was a great admirer of Rafi, wins hands down when it comes to range."<br /><br />Are you on drugs!<br /><br />Why would legendary music directors (listed below) continue to utilise Mohammed Rafi's voice if Kishore Kumar was a better singer! If Kishore was a better singer these MDs would have used his voice in many more songs during the period from the 1950s to 1970s. Anyone with nest to no knowledge of HFM can tell you they didn't because Kishore did not possess the talent, versatility, range, melody and sweetness in voice that Mohammed Rafi's voice had. You can accuse one or two MDs of partiality towards Mohammed Rafi but not all, absolutely no way! They obviously knew something which you have yet to discover. I hope discover it soon for your own sake. Honestly, you don't know what you're missing...<br /><br />Naushad, Shankar-Jaikishan, Ravi, Madan Mohan, Husanlal Bhagatram, Laxmikant Pyarelal, Roshan, Vasant Desai, Usha Khanna, Naashad, Allah Rakha Qureshi, Iqbal Qureshi, N Dutta, GS Kohli, S Mohinder, Kalyanji-Anandji, SD Burman, O P Nayyar and Chitragupta.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02016217638422824793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-70329444279760642009-12-30T00:59:19.724+05:302009-12-30T00:59:19.724+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02016217638422824793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-46817318262561604662009-12-15T13:48:20.127+05:302009-12-15T13:48:20.127+05:30why do not listen just one song, "tum bin ***...why do not listen just one song, "tum bin ****** kaha tum ko" sung by both, you will know the answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-21392292513130350282009-11-20T13:16:55.223+05:302009-11-20T13:16:55.223+05:30Rafi & Kishore are both hugely popular across ...Rafi & Kishore are both hugely popular across the globe. But the similarities end there. In terms of voice quality, range, and sheer singing talent, Rafi is the greatest ever! Only people who are biased, or are musically literate can deny this fact, and no amount of media push for RD + KK can change the bare facts. Just compare the bodies of work, and Kishore's work looks juvenile and elementary in comparison, and most people outgrow Kishore when they grow up. Rafi's body of work dwarfs that of anyone else including Lata. Even Lata hailed Rafi as the greatest ever playback singer (male or female) in a Hindustan Times tribute earlier this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-74259325068421300102009-11-14T20:50:15.043+05:302009-11-14T20:50:15.043+05:30Both Mohd rafi & Kishore are legends and havin...Both Mohd rafi & Kishore are legends and having their own identities. I dun think there should be a comparision in both of these singers..Kishore Kumar Songs Collectionhttp://www.apneartist.com/artist.asp?id=156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-87834331120918186752009-11-14T11:45:34.920+05:302009-11-14T11:45:34.920+05:30I loved Rafi's voice even when I was a 6 yr-ol...I loved Rafi's voice even when I was a 6 yr-old.<br />Kishore's voice is definitely for the masses, no doubt at all.<br />But, what gave Rafi the edge was he cud sing for a brooding Dilip Kumar and a flirtatious Dev Anand with equal finesse.Plus, Rafi was the first choice for a Ghazal or a classical song. Most Naushad compositions from Baiju Bawra to Mughal-e-azam would speak for that.<br /><br />Yes, I love all the songs you have listed :)-<br />here are more:<br />1) Chaudvin ka chand ho- Chaudvin ka chand<br />2) Apni to har aah ek toofan- Kaala bazaar<br />3) Aye husn zara jaag- Mere mehboob<br />4) Dekhi zamaane ki yaari- Kaagaz Ke Phool<br />5)Tumne mujhe dekha- Teesri Manzil<br />6)Kabhi khud pe kabhi haalat & main zindagi kaa saath nibhata- Hum Dono<br />I can just go and on. But, these would always be on the top<br /><br />But, I can never deny the fact that Kishore upstaged Rafi during the former's heydays. Perhaps, that's why most think he was the best.<br /><br />Nice post, like always :)-janani sampathnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17929252.post-5871853439629673342009-11-14T07:08:03.969+05:302009-11-14T07:08:03.969+05:30Hey darling, you forgot wada karle saajna.... How ...Hey darling, you forgot wada karle saajna.... How could you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com